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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Would you also describe the sound as smoother?
    No not really. Although I suppose we would need a definition of smoother' we both agree on

    That's why I used 'calmer'. That's not the same as 'smoother' - at least for me.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    No not really. Although I suppose we would need a definition of smoother' we both agree on

    That's why I used 'calmer'. That's not the same as 'smoother' - at least for me.
    Just trying to get a handle on what you mean. I know its difficult to describe how sound comes across sometimes.

    When I have heard improvements in digital playback they have usually resulted in a smoother less edgy (etched) sound which was a criticism of early digital playback.
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Just trying to get a handle on what you mean. I know its difficult to describe how sound comes across sometimes.

    When I have heard improvements in digital playback they have usually resulted in a smoother less edgy (etched) sound which was a criticism of early digital playback.
    An unfounded one IMV - I mean if you replace your 1970s Linn Sondek/Grace/AT95 with a modern 2 to 22 Hz flat device and play it into the same 15 watt Naim Nait and Linn Kans whose clipping, lack of bass and midrange hump livened up the stodgy, rolled off sound from the deck, then yeah, it's going to sound a bit edgy

    Like I said in the original post I would not take any of my sound quality opinions too seriously. They are what I perceive in casual listening but I strongly suspect I would not be able to tell it apart from the Audiolab if put to the test.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    In theory A CDT should not have a sound of it own?


    BUT like all things hifi maybe they can contribute something that changes the sound in some way.
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

    Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2

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    Yes, it's not impossible.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Hear ya Martin, is what it is.

    But it sounds different to the Audiolab, as does my modded Oppo 203.

    Its a conundrum,
    only sensible conclusion being digital can sound different… cos Reasons?

    (Apologies to the measurement crowd, it’s not You, it’s Me)
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Hear ya Martin, is what it is.

    But it sounds different to the Audiolab, as does my modded Oppo 203.

    Its a conundrum,
    only sensible conclusion being digital can sound different… cos Reasons?

    (Apologies to the measurement crowd, it’s not You, it’s Me)
    well, there's technical reasons it can be, I mentioned a couple I am aware of in the o/p. Or I'm mistaken and they are the same.

    Really I'm fine with that either way as long as it sounds good to me.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    well, there's technical reasons it can be, I mentioned a couple I am aware of in the o/p. Or I'm mistaken and they are the same.

    Really I'm fine with that either way as long as it sounds good to me.
    Ditto.
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

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    Do you remember this thread Martin?

    https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...2915-Teac-VRDS
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

    Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Do you remember this thread Martin?

    https://theartofsound.net/forum/show...2915-Teac-VRDS
    doesn't ring any bells. The old ones look great but they're £500 or so which is too much for something that might die in a week.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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