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  1. #11
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    this is a cheaper version.. same idea tho

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/HYCOTE-Main...d5d99379a&th=1
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    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
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    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


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  2. #12
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    Already have a Dremmel

    Frustrating though!
    Just need a small enough cutting disc.

    Not heard of that Shock Spray before Grant, looks like "super WD40".
    interesting.

    Its a new player though, its just that the screws are very soft and (I suspect) chosen deliberately by Audiolab for "1 shot only" use to hamper opening the product.
    Kinda like Apple do.

    Seen it done though, so its possible.
    Think I've just been unlucky.

    They say nothing good comes easy, so Plan D it is then.
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

  3. #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Already have a Dremmel

    Frustrating though!
    Just need a small enough cutting disc.

    Not heard of that Shock Spray before Grant, looks like "super WD40".
    interesting.

    Its a new player though, its just that the screws are very soft and (I suspect) chosen deliberately by Audiolab for "1 shot only" use to hamper opening the product.
    Kinda like Apple do.

    Seen it done though, so its possible.
    Think I've just been unlucky.

    They say nothing good comes easy, so Plan D it is then.
    wear down some larger ones mate til they are right size
    Regards,
    Grant .... ؠ ......Don't be such a big girl's blouse

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: democracy simply-doesn't-work
    .... ..... ...... ...... ................... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....
    FIIO K7 BT, M11 PLUS, BTR7, KA5 - OPPO BDP-103D - PANASONIC UB450 - PANASONIC 4K ULTRA HD TV - PIXEL 6 - AVANTREE LR BLUETOOTH - 2* X600 SOUNDCORE - HEADPHONES INCLUDE, FIIO, NURAPHONES', FOCAL, OPPO, BOSE, CAMBRIDGE, BOWER & WILKINS, DEVIALET, MARSHALL, SONY, MITCHELL & JOHNSTON - 2*ZBOOK'S- MERCURY BD ROM, ROON, QOBUZ, TIDAL, PLEX, CYBERLINK, JRIVER - MULTI HDD'S -

    Oh my god! There's nothing wrong with the bidet is there?

    “Nothing discloses real character like the use of power. It is easy for the weak to be gentle. Most people can bear adversity. But if you wish to know what a man really is, give him power. This is the supreme test. It is the glory of Lincoln that, having almost absolute power, he never abused it, except on the side of mercy".

    “You see these dictators on their pedestals, surrounded by the bayonets of their soldiers and the truncheons of their police ... yet in their hearts there is unspoken fear. They are afraid of words and thoughts: words spoken abroad, thoughts stirring at home -- all the more powerful because forbidden -- terrify them. A little mouse of thought appears in the room, and even the mightiest potentates are thrown into panic.”

    "You don't have free will. You have the appearance of free will.”

    “There's a war out there, old friend. A world war. And it's not about who's got the most bullets. It's about who controls the information. What we see and hear, how we work, what we think... it's all about the information!”


    ***SMILE, BE HAPPY***

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Work begins tommorow.

    Have a pack of this stuff coming, used it before its really effective.
    Silent Coat 4mm aluminium backed Butyl constrained layer damping sheets.

    Uses constrained layer damping to lower panel resonance and absorb structural vibrations, converting them into low level heat.

    Previously I used the 2mm sheets to line the casework on my Oppo, worked great.
    Didn't know they did double thickness 4mm stuff.
    This will add even more mass and damping to the Audiolab's metal casework.


    Gary, I've found there is a sweet spot in use of these materials, not too much or for that matter too little. I find that SilentCoat and similar partly reduce vibrations and partly just lower the frequency of existing vibrations without removing them. The more used, the lower the frequency and might be helpful or harmful to the electro-mechanical operation of the laser, clock, etc. When the life starts to be sucked out of the music, that's when I back off and remove a bit. It's not unusual in my experience to have one part of the frequency spectrum improve and other frequencies degrade, not noticed until later. YMMV.
    Bruce

    Theories are not so much answers as questions, to be supported or undermined by experience & testing.

    Source: Audiolab 6000CDT > Calyx 24/192 DAC
    Amplification: Pass-design B1rev2 pre-amplifier > Neurochrome Modulus 686.
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  5. #15
    Join Date: Oct 2008

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    I'm Gary.

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    Thanks Bruce,

    Good to know.
    I'll keep an eye (ear?) on that.

    Gaz.
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

  6. #16
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    Tada!
    Elbow grease, patience and a slightly bigger Torx bit and got the buggers out.

    Discarding the crappy T6 torx screws that came with it?
    I have replacement "proper" screws which pretty much look the same, but will be easy to remove if need be.



    No need for Dremmel, phew!

    Now for some investigation, taking note of cap values and giving the PCB a closer once over.
    As suspected, the case is well put together, but uses thin bent sheet metal.
    I'll get that sorted.

    Back on plan.

  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Discarding the crappy T6 torx screws that came with it
    I quite like Torx screws, nice and positive. Dunno their origins, but I'd guess from automated assembly lines.
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

  8. #18
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    Gary,

    I've got a furutech pure copper gold plated IEC going cheap in my "to sell" pile if your intersted in replacing that IEC on the Audiolab (it's never been used). Send me a PM if your interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Tada!
    Elbow grease, patience and a slightly bigger Torx bit and got the buggers out.

    Discarding the crappy T6 torx screws that came with it?
    I have replacement "proper" screws which pretty much look the same, but will be easy to remove if need be.



    No need for Dremmel, phew!

    Now for some investigation, taking note of cap values and giving the PCB a closer once over.
    As suspected, the case is well put together, but uses thin bent sheet metal.
    I'll get that sorted.

    Back on plan.
    I like how they used all that empty space to site the traffo well away from everything else.

    Regrettably the things that annoy me about it can't be fixed.
    Current Lash Up:

    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

  10. #20
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    Good old trick that.
    Main system : VPI Scout 1.1 / JMW 9T / 2M Black / Croft 25R+ / Croft 7 / Heco Celan GT 702

    Second System : Goldring Lenco GL75 / AT95EX / Pioneer SX590 / Spendor SP2

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