Thanks Vince... the 6 hook version is excellent, they put the springs to shame on my set up ...I'll be receiving the new design in the next couple of days (Many thanks Peter..)and I will report back when I've give them a run out....
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Thanks Vince... the 6 hook version is excellent, they put the springs to shame on my set up ...I'll be receiving the new design in the next couple of days (Many thanks Peter..)and I will report back when I've give them a run out....
New suspension fitted...and after some swapping and changing about with bearings and re-sizing the teflon washers, I have my tt sounding fantastic....the new design is outstanding....excellent work Peter...:clapclapclap:...I have to give you 9/10 for these mate....saying that...I never give anyone 10/10...I wouldn't want anyone to get big headed...cheques in the post....
Same here - listened to a load of vinyl this morning with the new suspension on and WOW - changed the ORBE into something a lot lot better.
Seems to dig even more information out and the sound quality (to my ears) is second to none - a quick picture:
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For me looks much better than the springs so the covers won't be going back on :)
Hi thank you both for doing this , i could not comment as the odyssey is already modified ,it would of not been fair to all the people who have read this, they do work exceptionally well with out the need to modify the chassis or add feet to get the very best i have ever listened to out of the deck, it has cost a fortune and been fun to do ,with more changes to designs to get the very best with out touching the £100 mark ,which it has well below that , the disappointment was the 3d ones that had problems keeping the sizes needed for the parts, and also allowing them to be cheaper , but they are being worked on , and may be offered as a composite set of 3d printed nut and delrin base,if you are interested just send me a pm ,if i can help i will but some parts are kept secret ,for my design sake, so here we go the Nut is a M10x1mm pitch with 6 slots in the side and counter bore.to make the base part , the base is 33.1 x 26,2 with a 22mm hole and a counter bore , if you want to make them ,
sizes have been changed to protect the design , these sizes will fit if you want them too, but they are Not what i use
p.s cost is £50 , due to a hike by the supplier of the parts, and post that adds up to £12 buy the time all the parts arrive and then sent out ,
peter
Best oil for your TT if you can adjust the speed , as it contains a friction eliminator ZX1 C76 Micro Lube 35ml Motorcycle Car Penetrating Pin Oiler on eBay
The suspension parts are much more expensive , with the machining costs, than the hooks, with the new version , the hooked ones are no longer made,
pylon up date , it seems like michell have changed the size on the 34,7 to 33.5 or their supplier , this was beyond my control , each set has been fitted to my odyssey before being sent out , if any one wants to send their set back please contact me and i will refund any payment or send a replacement ASAP , as i said these are still under continuing development to get the bugs sorted out , my apology for any inconvenience caused,
the size was taken from the michell part so i will ask anyone who want these to check the size of this before ordering so i can get them made to that size,
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Tales of the Unexpected
So yesterday a set of the 3 pillar suspensions arrived from Peter and this morning I was able to fit. The first unexpected issue was that they would not quite fit, that is to say that the bottom nut that the chassis hangs from was slightly too large, so a quick call to Peter and I measured them with gauges and guess what Michel have changed the size of the machined hole by 1mm. Never mind out came my trusty file and after 30 minutes of gentle whittling all 3 were pushed into their orifices. This was my choice as Peter was more than happy to get them replaced ASAP at his cost. Personally I could not see the point as it was a relatively simple task and wanted to see how good they were. Peter and I chatted on Skype whilst I did this about a variety of topic.
So about an hour later I had the deck level and had checked the set up of the arm and also adjusted the speed.
So the next unexpected thing was when I put on Peter Gabriel - So, WOW everything was just better, it seemed more detailed and controlled, bass more extended, and low mid is certainly more defined and soundstage is more open. Quite a revelation for such a small investment. Bear in mind that everything has not settled down yet, so this is a great result.
So what have I got to compare it with, well my system is pretty revealing and musical, to my ears anyway. A close friend has a very similar set up to me (same speakers, 300b amp but with a an SME turntable and V arm). Having heard his system at length I would now consider that the level of detail from mine is pretty close to his, so as far as I am concerned this is a major result.
So to sum up if you have and Gyrodec, Orbe or a GOrbe IMO you would be quite foolish to not do this upgrade, the improvement is significant. Next is the ceramic ball bearing for the platter bearing, and similar for the pillars, and the simple motor upgrade.
Thank you Peter for all you help, and it certainly was not you fault that Michel changed the hole size, simple for you to fix. The design improvement is great.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...a8ef963c1b.jpg
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Got these from a company called Solidair audio top and bottoms are made from ebony wood, very similar to yours but much more expensive.so well done
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Got the feet as well.Didn't say they were cheap,but hey you can't take it with you☺.Together they have made a big improvment to the sound.
unfortunately due to cost out of my control they will be £75 , the person who is machining them is moving to spain , i have had to find another machinist to do these and the price was higher if you also take into account the cost of post ,
Hi all i have taken the add down for now, this was due to being asked for better Pictures , well if the person needed them or wanted to copy them Good Luck , each deck is hand made , Nothing is Standard , accept the springs and bearings, each hole will be different in size,
what has happened i have been accused of being a trader which i am not these were done to help michell owners tune or upgrade the decks, all of them done for that reason , but i cannot do this with out payment for the parts, it has snow balled from their , how ever if you want to make them you can just spend the 6 months of tryouts and failures ,to get to were the pylons are , there has been reviews from grateful owners who never pay upfront only ever pay what they cost to put together , in the prices their is about £12 in post , on every one ,as one product does not make a Business, the cost would have to triple to £250 , so it is not a viable prospect ,
Bearing balls ,oil , plastic rings, etc all bought off eBay
PTFE washers direct from Michell
o-rings from Swansea,
other parts eBay via China,
pete
hi thank you , they are still available but just as a hobby , so no rush , what i am still struggling with is why the springs do not work ,other than the frequencies being transmitted and the rotation of the chassis, which cannot happen with the replacements, every time i look at this the cost seems to go up ,as i do not machine the parts , so every time i order the parts they have gone up ,which is then passed on , Michell just never made the Deck Standard , with holes both metric and imperial , with the center nut being 3/8bsf the outer suspension thread being M10x1p , but the early version can be imperial one thread is no longer made any more so machine work is expensive in that case, the other is one of 2 imperial ones with the same TPI ,
The holes in the base can change by 2mm , so trying to mass market them would be a nightmare every one made to order every one taking up to 6 hours , to produce and check pack and send , so as a viable product to be come a trader it would need to be far more , so they are just a way to keep my mind going , and helping members on this forum ,
Pete
It's a bloody shame, when the pound sign raises its ugly head...I know you were making nowt on these Pete and were just making them for Michell owners to get the best from their tt's...It's a further shame, when you are accused of being a trader, by someone who will remain un-named (you know who you are)...the cost of these just about covered your outlay....but when you have a pie, everyone wants a piece, for nowt, even though you were making nothing....greed for gold...I couldn't be like them, shame on them...
Alan thank you , i did another design just to help the springs , but that will never be seen on here,Michell are looking to see if that will help , they would of helped the suspension but not been in the league of the hook less ones, i have come to the end in this now so all the best , and have a great new year ,
I have to say Pete that the more I listen to my GOrbe with the suspension mod you supplied the more I realise just how good it is with this mod. Everything is just more detailed and controlled.
I have also fitted the ceramic ball under the bearing and it is noticeably quieter. Toilet fitting next.
With respect to the springs not working as expected, have you considered that they might be oscillating at certain frequencies which would upset things greatly.
As others have said it’s a terrible shame others have tried to muscle in. The only way I could see prices being kept down is a larger volume order, but that is a big financial commitment.
Thanks for all your hard work, chat soon[emoji41]
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to prove a point i have just had an email from a guy in Canada with regards to the suspension , the size of the hole is 35,2 mm , the smaller 29.4, he has seen the pictures of Alans deck ,but also it proves that the hole size can change on every deck out there ,
he saw mr moons deck on here and knows that i am not a business and they may take a month or 2, depending on the cost, as his is a mk 2 the same as lostwins, he said after 33 years of use there was no rush ,
AOS (Marco ) knows that this is just a hobby , and he is happy for me to keep posting , which with his permission ,
when i have been asked for 20 a week it is then i know these are being taken seriously and i must then put a plan to turn into the dreaded trader with all the problems and pricing that will bring ,
well it seems as though these have worked again ,on Vinces deck ,the more i hear the more that is helps to put the things correct , the hole sizes are now sorted with just the size of one of the components to sort out which has turned out to be very easy , to do ,
Yes Peter....I've been using these on my deck and they are wonderful...a Gyrodec with an sme309 arm and a Denon 103 cartridge..so so revealing is the sound, crisp clear vocals, wonderful separation, wide sound stage and the best bass response to date...just to double check...I took them to Vince's home and put them on his Gyrodec...which utilises a Rega RB300 tone arm, with a very nice silver wire upgrade and a techno-weight...and a nice Ortofon Kontrapunkt B cartridge..Lo and behold...absolutely outstanding...Buffalo Springfield Again...a very complex album, with a lot going on, everything picked out perfectly...timing is impeccable...wet wet wet the memphis sessions....exceptional...Pink Floyd, Dark Side Of the Moon...rapid...and a superb rendition of the little ginger fellas album..Divide...a great afternoons listening...
Peter deserves success with this.
He dabbled, found something better than the norm then reached out.
Gave what he found out for free initially, but the double sided coin of forum life meant he had to change that.
Being one of the guys who improved his Michell turntable thanks to his research I’m thankful to him.
Nowadays my digital is just as good so happy where I am, but I’m sure John Michell himself would have been interested in these upgrades improving his design.
as you now i have done this thread to help others, which i will continue to do so , the pylons were always on the top of the list to sort out, but doing them in a sympathetic way to the design of the deck so you do not have to change the feet ,or buy a very expensive plastic padding kit was the challenge, to send me up the wall for months, i did this design and placed it to one side,due to the cost in the machining of the parts ,
This is the cheap upgrades for Michell Gyro , and not clobber the HIFI user for every penny they have or push the price up so much the man who can just about to start a HIFI cannot upgrade , so i am a bit embarrassed about the cost of them which is just the cost of the parts and the post , and i mean post ,i think £12 -£15 is post , on every one ,
They are made when i am asked for them, due to the Michell Chassis having different sized holes, which still causes problems that only one set can be made at a time and low volumes one off's being machined cost a fortune to get done, so they get machined and they arrive at home the slots need to be done , and other parts added , but to keep the price as it is, there is no fancy box ,and never will be,
There are still Hick ups, Michell as changed the Hole size several times, as the sand cast Chassis had a problem when cast they have reduced the hole sizes several times but now that has been sorted in the decks after 2014 but before that date it is a user help i needed for the size of the holes,
the price is the cost of the machining ,/printing , (software and cad design is expensive) so i hope the price will not go up ,
Michell do have a set of them and were testing them out ,i do not think they will take this up , they will design their own which will be to the Michell sound,
these are just not like that , all the feedback has been from people i have never met only talked after they have fitted to the decks and have left feedback , even on very old mk2 decks , it has caught me by surprise,
yes the Caps do go back on , no wood or string guaranteed , no plastic padding , sand or holes to be drilled,
just add the pylons and be amazed, how good the deck you own and john Michell made
happy Christmas and a Happy New year to everyone, on AOS
I've got the the suspension towers on my Gyrode SE with a rewired RB 300 arm and a Ortofon Kontrapunkt B cartrididge. These towers are phenonamol, the music is just galloping from my speakers, every aspect from bass, mids and treble have al improved drastically. Thanks Peter and Alan for fitting them. I was a bit sceptical at first, but boy do these work.
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Thanks vince they are good, but still have to make a set for my self as every time i do i am asked for them latest happy camper was Tarzan , who has the delrin version
Having had these bad boys for a couple of weeks now and feel l have a handle on them l only thought it appropriate to put pen to paper and spread the love of this upgrade...….
Having felt that the springs on my maxxed out Gyrodec could be bettered ( they ring like a cow bell )it is like waiting for a bus- two quite similar products in principle come along at the same time :
They are made of Delrin which has superb vibration properties and 0 rubber rings, they were easy to fit and machined superbly basically the Pylons replace the spring suspension and this is the important part- stop the platter, moving from side to side, fitted in no time at all- and best of all passes by the dreaded 'Gyrodec bounce' and just leveling the deck is all that was required, so sat down to listen and listen...……. and listen..... B'Jesus, the solidity, imaging has taken a very large step forward W&F is way down, this in turn gives a deeper more 3D effect, tonal colourings are also up, the feeling of the deck sounding calmer and being in total control of the record is very, very, obvious, oh and the backgrounds are a LOT blacker, dynamics are up and this brings a strange sensation that the sound is louder ( however this is due the blacker backgrounds)…. l could go on and on, but am going to listen to more records, l know of no other upgrade to my Gyro that has given me this lift in sound quality ( and trust me l have done a lot.) If you are thinking of upgrading your Gyro/Orbe or was thinking of moving on from them you simply have to try this upgrade.
l have no connection with gweraffield just one very happy camper. Tarzan
i have been told about a problem which is easy to fix , the adjuster can get stuck , this is because Michell chromed the adjuster which has made them all sizes , so i have used a std 10mm , it is a very easy fix, which if you have a problem please let me know , they are not with out support the adjuster i have found can be 10.1 10.2 upward , , please let me know i will sort it out, (please make sure the deck it level and i mean level ) THE way they are designed means the deck must be level or the pylon will stick on the adjuster ,
i will have copy PTFE washers at £2.50 for the set of 3 , i have some extra ones,
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it has been said these are like Gert Pedersons, but the design is far away from that as possible, gert has to drill and tap the chassis to stop rotational movement of the chassis, and add kevlar wires , he weighs down the chassis with plastic padding , and sand due to the design and using 3 large o rings on steel pylons that he makes he will NOT sell it separately the design means the deck simply cannot stay in one place it will move with the 3 large o-rings, hence the need for the weight and the added wires to keep it stable, so the deck is no longer a gyro it is what gert has made it into his own
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now this design has taken a while to get too ,the caps had to fit back on , with help from the members of AOS ,wam , so now i have a upgrade in keeping with what i started some 18mths ago ,
it uses the Michell adjuster and 6 o-rings, and is made of Delrin for Now, it stays within the Michell designed points , which stops helps stop rotation of the chassis
, i have NOT done a review as it is up to the members to comment ,which has been great ,
with this design you do not have to buy feet or drill holes, i it does not damage anything accept the concept the gyro /orbe is not very musical or clear
,once you have fitted them , throw all the digital stuff away ,as you will not believe what is hidden in that black Vinyl and if you don't like them send them back , and put the springs back in and no one be the wiser ,
There will NOT be any 3d printed ones like vinces these failed on the foot , due to bad printing ,so i will not do them until i can find a proper 3d printing company and not some one who has just set up and printed them,
The machine needed has to have a better resolution and must be kept in a dust free environment ,with no drafts this is so the plastic filament will adhere properly and not fail, as any one can print them but getting them correct seems to be the problem ,even on a 4k printer, if the 3d printer is not sealed in its own clean area for get it, they are fine for models but working parts forget it with out the correct machine
Well I am sat here listening or should I say re-discovering another record, The Police - Ghost in the Machine, and the change that the Delrin pylons have made becomes more stunning the more I listen. The bass and low mid is truly wonderful, goes very low and yet is still controlled (remember I do have some great horn speakers so they should be fit for the job), drums are dynamic and tight, instruments are clearly separated and defined. I have the impression of being in the room stood with the drums in front of me. I am not exaggerating, I used to play in a few amateur bands so am used to how a drum kit sounds when you are in the room with it, the set up on the Gyrodec now seems to extract a lot more detail, and dynamics.
Thanks you Pete for this upgrade is certainly is worth its weight in gold!!:):clapclapclap:
Solid Air Audio Thingies??? ....These are nothing like them at all...these are machined from Delrin and suspended using NBR o-rings and are designed and made by Peter ( gwernaffield ) They have no association with Peter whatsoever...If you want a proper set of pylons to support your Michell TT...believe me..these are the boys...I'm hard to please, and I don't part with my coppers easily....but these are exceptionally impressive...and worth every single penny....
well it has been eventful to say the least ,with the pylons now sorted to were i am happy, i now know which sizes i need to make sure are correct ,a new Nut has been designed so it will support the o-rings better and yes it will be 3d printed , the base will always be delrin, i have been forced into adding the adjusters this is to stop the sticking adjuster so the price will have to go up to reflect that they will Michell originals , , unless you supply yours ,
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The suspension will be supplied with the adjusters , so they are easy to fit , the internal 28.5 is the same as Michell and now the 33.7 is the same as the Michell suspension so all little problems have been sorted, as Michell has kept the 28.5 all the way through ,from the imperial to metric , The main problem being the Adjusters which i will supply from Michell , this will help in the plug and play part ,
as for rotation on the chassis . i am 100% positive the suspension reduces this to a very noticeable when these are installed , i have had a gauge made to check the sizes of all the parts now, pre 2014 34.76 and after 2014 33.76, which is now the std size
with the 28.5 being std through out apart from the pain thickness that i cannot do anything about ,
, i understand that this will put the cost up , but the alternative is to send the adjusters , which is not what i intended , and will hold this project up ,
All the Best to Every one have a great and safe new year :cool:
Why should you buy these pylons? Why should you invest in any of the inexpensive upgrades for your Gyrodec or Orbe, why are ceramic balls better than steel on these decks. These upgrades lower vibration to an exceptionally low level, there is less friction, less movement, lowering noise..little or no metal to metal interaction if you do all the upgrades, therefore you will be hearing a lot more of the music when it reaches your ears..I've done the majority of the upgrades including the new pylons and boy they work a treat. It's up to you should you wish to employ these clever tweaks, no ones arm is being twisted...So anyone asking the question, why should I buy, the answer is..you don't have to..it's advice and very good avice at that..and your choice to act on it..or not.
Hi Alan , as you know what the pylons do , and want to keep them to your self lol...., well i agree there is not a sales man among us , The benefit of the Pylons Bring is vast..... in every sense of the word, No Dealer or Retailer are involved ,and to hear the difference you have to BUY them , even with the Bush problem Now sorted , i just cannot get them back,
So yes you are not Forced to Buy them at all , it is up to you to seek out some one who has them fitted and have a good listen or ask their honest advice off the users......
, The little Tweaks on here have been done to help the owners of these Turntable's get the Very best out of them with out needing a very large bank account ,
with all that said , the cost of the pylons compared to other products seem Too Cheap , and i was told that they would not work , to use sorbothane under the feet , well that would not work in a million years, the Chassis would still want to twist , so now the bearing replacement , that came about after a certain Manufacture put the same bearing Ball in the Orbe-R , so what was good enough for that seemed to be the best for the gyro , lowering the noise floor off the bearing given less noise into the platter and on into the cartridge ,
Then the balls in the towers , i used Delrin but after some advice from Alan i changed to Ceramic , which has made a difference , to the mid's ,
The Oil i use is a mix of Mobil 1 and zx1 super lube but only do that if you have a HR power supply so you can adjust the speed , you will notice several other things on my deck the center spindle is Delrin ,which holds the bearing ball, the arm board is made from carbon fiber , there are 4 spiders and the complete case, the motor is 3kg ,
all of this over 2 years , but the best i left to Last ,the Pylons, over the last 3 years , to get them correct , they took a fortune , learning that the cost involved in One offs machining wise is very expensive ,
Michell Changed sizes due going from imperial to metric, caused problems , and then the adjuster seems to have a 100 different sizes , the threads are different , there was 2 different imperial sized threads , but the metric one is under size to allow for the Chrome ..
please Note there are 2 types of suspension , the original solid version they will be imperial , then the new split version with the adjuster Metric and imperial in the early ones,
You Are Correct Why should you do any of the advice , You Owe it to your Michell Turntable to let it give you the very best for the investment you have made in these iconic turntables. and not add string wood or plastic padding ,
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Hi Peter
I have a Gyro and I’m interested in your mods can you please send me details.
Many thanks
Regards
Bill
all the details on the mods are on here if you need to just send me a pm .
peter
Hi Peter,
I'm interested in buying a set of your new pylons. Are you still making them?
If so, what do you need to know from me in terms of sizes? Is it the diameter of the bottom spring support or the diameter of the hole in the chassis where the springs go?
Would it be easier if I sent the spring assembly to you?
these are the last to be made pete
The reason above was because of the problem with the adjuster , this is easy to fix on some decks but not on the orbe, it seems as though the suspension post is out of alignment , or the weight of the platter has caused the spider to bow, it happens on the gyro as well , over time, so now the base has to be made lose fitting , i am experimenting on how to stop the chassis from rotation , but still using the same way of location , of the adjuster maybe using a soft rubber washer , or a foam rubber like sorbothane
on top of the base, so the chassis weight stops the rotation with the help of the rubber washer
peter
Tested and working , so i will make them if required
I would like a set of these as well I have a Gyro 1993.
Just know how to proceed.
Many thanks
Steve
Another happy camper and new Aos member
Hi Pete,
The fit is good, with easy movement up and down.
I can’t see any misalignment that hinders the operation of the pylons.
Your help, advice and service have been exemplary.
There is a much greater clarity and distinction between each instrument/voice.
Bass is much improved, both in depth and solidity, something I’ve always looked for to get the most out of my transmission line speakers.
For me, I’ve still got some work to do dialling the arm back in – I seem to have lost a bit of the treble sparkle, but I’m over the moon with the pylons.
You deserve all the credit your get and more!
Kind regards, fingle
oldest gyro now done 33 years old, and a happy camper and lives in Canada, new pic to follow
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these are the sizes that i need to know, if you can take them off the chassis the better , if yoy take it off the spring retainer or the cap , the chance is they will be wrong ,
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Table above is mine-that photo was taken in the evening in poor light conditions so I've attached a couple of better shots taken today to give a slightly better impression.
To say that I'm pleased with Pete's suspension modifications would be an understatement. I had a chance to listen last night for about 3-4 hours and another hour or so this morning to recordings that I am very familiar with and the improvements are significant.
Detail retrieval, separation of instruments, intelligibility of vocals, the ability to follow bass lines and low frequency information have all taken a pretty significant jump in performance and the whole presentation has a much more effortless, controlled feel and sound to it, particularly with dense and very dynamic recordings where low level detail seems to really emerge in quieter passages and huge dynamic swings are rendered with much lower distortion.
I might be imagining it (don't think so), but I also believe that surface noise has been further reduced, which I have never felt was a weakness in my setup before.
It's quite impressive and really a no brainer I think for anyone wanting to wring more performance out of their Gyrodec. These are a tight fit (notwithstanding the problems Pete has had as a result of variances in sizing from Michell over the years) and a bit different than working with the standard spring set up but the efforts are worthwhile.
I should also say that Pete was a real pleasure to work with in terms of his communication; he really encouraged me to get the measurements right so I ended up borrowing a set of digital calipers from a friend which resulted in a smooth transaction. The original measurements I took with a steel ruler would probably have resulted in a lot of grief.
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Your Deck looks fabulous Blake..immaculate in fact..and of course sounds as good as it looks I'll wager...
Thanks Alan! I picked this Gyrodec up for a song at an auction in 1985-it was a few years old then and is a very early model actually having soft feet at the time I purchased it-and then had to put a bit of money into it (but it was still quite a bargain) to get it into working order. Over the years it has been upgraded with most of Michell's modular upgrades: platter, bearing, suspension posts. And I've of course changed arms and cartridges over the years. It has been a real source of enjoyment for more than 33 years now.
It still sports the original AC motor, which has a 1981 stamped manufacturers date on it.
I've always been pleased with the sound of it but am even more so now thanks to Pete's ingenuity. He has really come up with something in terms of this new suspension and is to be commended.
Thanks Blake i am to please, now people may not see this as a joke, or they are a piss take, they do exist , they took a while to get correct , and i learned a lot with every set done, it was a pity that Michell never kept to the sizes , that would make the job easy but every one is different in one way or another, it can never be a commercial product always a bespoke one,
The orbe i had a problem with has been sorted , with a smaller base in one or of the holes because of the spider being out by 1mm, that locked the adjuster up so tight he could not turn any of them but now he is a happy camper , i hope they Bring you Hours of pleasure ,
all the best
pete
Hi Pete
Can you send me a pm about the pylons please. I cant seem to pm you as yet.
Thanks.
Steve.