18c and sunny, had a lovely walk with the dog up to see Sue at the car boot sale who is having another go this week - probably a third of the sellers...
Thanks chaps but I did actually see the reviews of the CDM4 on that website. Nice site. Looks like there were a huge amount of variations of the CDM4...
No it didn't do any harm, quite the opposite. Being trained to be indifferent to suffering wasn't pleasant at the time but it's been a positive boon...