Pioneer PD-S703 Opamps question

**Macca** · 01-10-2023, 18:49

Originally Posted by CageyH

So what would be the suggested upgrade/new CD transport?

Not sure it would be an upgrade of any note if at all. I always thought the Legato Link made the top end a bit too soft and rolled off but I was a lot younger then so maybe I would not even notice it now. Plus you like it anyway.

I blind tested streamed cd vs cd in the transport the other day, I was just guessing as to which was which. So local streaming is/can be on a par all else being equal. The streaming services like Tidal, I don't know about that.

**Lawrence001** · 02-10-2023, 06:16

Did you find the Marantz players of the period (KI Sig etc) a bit soft or rolled off too Martin?

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**CageyH** · 02-10-2023, 16:21

I have just ripped a CD using EAC, using a pretty accurate Asus Blu-Ray drive, and the ripped file has less impact, and it all seems very close. It is a pain ripping CDs, but I suppose you only have to do it once.

**struth** · 02-10-2023, 16:40

Originally Posted by CageyH

I have just ripped a CD using EAC, using a pretty accurate Asus Blu-Ray drive, and the ripped file has less impact, and it all seems very close. It is a pain ripping CDs, but I suppose you only have to do it once.

it should sound just same, depends of course to a degree on the program your playing it from etc

**Macca** · 02-10-2023, 17:11

Originally Posted by Lawrence001

Did you find the Marantz players of the period (KI Sig etc) a bit soft or rolled off too Martin?

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I only have 2 Marantz players, a 67SE and a 54. I don't think either are soft in the top but I'm not keen on the 67SE at all. It sort of paints in bold strokes with a bit of added glitter. No real experience of the KI players but I always thought KI was full of it when I read interviews with him. Good marketing man but that's it.

The 54 sounds lovely but lacks a bit of LF impact. Certainly not hard and harsh even though it's a very early player.

Sony and Technics players have always been my favourites.

**CageyH** · 02-10-2023, 17:25

A friend bought a KI Sig CD player when they came out.
He invited me and another friend round for a listen.
5 minutes was enough to agree it needed to be boxed up and return. He did not like it either.

**JimC** · 03-10-2023, 06:53

Originally Posted by struth

it should sound just same, depends of course to a degree on the program your playing it from etc

I've listened to a few and I have to say Red Book sounds so much better on a dedicated CD Player.

J.C.

**eldarvanyar** · 06-10-2023, 23:00

I have read many times that reviewers and other people think that a dedicated CD player sounds better than streaming, even with the high definition files.
DACs can sound different in different players though.

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**Macca** · 07-10-2023, 06:32

Originally Posted by eldarvanyar

I have read many times that reviewers and other people think that a dedicated CD player sounds better than streaming, even with the high definition files.
DACs can sound different in different players though.

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you have to compare like with like though. If the mastering is different there will be audible differences. If not then it's unlikely. Most reviewers don't have the first clue what they are doing or talking about.

**Barry** · 07-10-2023, 07:54

Originally Posted by Macca

Most reviewers don't have the first clue what they are doing or talking about.

Sad, but true!

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