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Thread: 2 channel SACD: worth it? what player should I get?

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    Default 2 channel SACD: worth it? what player should I get?

    I am potentially in the market for a SACD player but only have 2 channels (possibly will use a sub) and intend to keep it that way.
    I have lots of SACDs/highbrid SACDs of classical orchestral music in particular, and would like to know:
    What player should I get? 2nd hand ideally or under £1000 new
    Will it make a difference in my system? I am not sure how I could demo and find out!
    I am totally blind: am I going to have to fiddle with on screen menues or anything to make it play the SACD layer?

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    second hand I'd recommend a Sony SCD-XB790QS

    No menus, it will automatically play the SACD layer.

    Although the two layers of the hybrid disc usually have the exact same mastering this isn't always true so they may sound different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    second hand I'd recommend a Sony SCD-XB790QS

    No menus, it will automatically play the SACD layer.

    Although the two layers of the hybrid disc usually have the exact same mastering this isn't always true so they may sound different.
    Hmm, what's the point in highbrid sacds if they have the same mastering on each layer?
    Is there a way to research this by label? for example I have lots of BIS, a fair few Linn, Pentatone, it's mostly classical stuff.
    Thanks for your recommendation!

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    I would ask the same of HQCD - is it worth bothering with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gramophonic View Post
    Hmm, what's the point in highbrid sacds if they have the same mastering on each layer?
    Is there a way to research this by label? for example I have lots of BIS, a fair few Linn, Pentatone, it's mostly classical stuff.
    Thanks for your recommendation!
    Because SACD is higher resolution. It depends which camp you're in. Some like Peter Qvartrup think you can't improve on red book CD with a good dac, others think higher resolution sounds better. The only way to know is to try it yourself and see which you prefer.

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    what does 'higher resolution' actually mean?
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    I’ve ordered a Denon DCD-A110, not really for the SACD playback but it's a nice addition. Although I’m not really a fan of hires music and think standard redbook is more than good enough. I traded my Melco in for it as even in that I found hires was very lacklustre and it's definitely more down to the mastering than the resolution.


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    i think if your going to do work on it before listening etc then hi-res does help. i noticed when recording my vinyl to file that it all worked much better on hi-res. so all my albums recorded were done in 24/96. trouble is it uses an awful lot of space which are mostly 0's
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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    i think if your going to do work on it before listening etc then hi-res does help. i noticed when recording my vinyl to file that it all worked much better on hi-res. so all my albums recorded were done in 24/96. trouble is it uses an awful lot of space which are mostly 0's
    True if it just compressed the file by deleting all the pointless zeros it would be much smaller. I guess the trouble is it might not sound the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    what does 'higher resolution' actually mean?
    1/2822.4 Vs 16/44 for CD, so 4x the resolution.

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