When is the last time any DAC won a What HIFI 5 Star? I guess I shall have to buy the magazine and frame that page:gig:.
I better get myself a designer suit for the award presentation:smoking:
http://whathifi.com/Review/Beresford-TC-7510/
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When is the last time any DAC won a What HIFI 5 Star? I guess I shall have to buy the magazine and frame that page:gig:.
I better get myself a designer suit for the award presentation:smoking:
http://whathifi.com/Review/Beresford-TC-7510/
:wow:
Congrats Stan.
:respect:
Excellent - a well deserved accolade. Congratulations, Stan - I hope it brings you lots of new business! :)
When you get it, send the page to me (I'll PM you my address) and I'll frame it nicely for you F.O.C to mark the occasion on behalf of AOS :)Quote:
When is the last time any DAC won a What HIFI 5 Star? I guess I shall have to buy the magazine and frame that page
I better get myself a designer suit for the award presentation.
Btw, if you're in doubt of my framing credentials, check out my profile ;)
Great news, mate, I wish you the best and hope it brings you more success :clap:
Off you go and have a few of these - you deserve it! :barrel:
Marco.
Congratulations. It'll be interesting to see what the effect of that is. Once upon a time it was a powerful incentive for potential customers, not sure its quite as influential now but have fun dealing with the response!
Hi Stan,
Well done. I hope it results in a little prosperity. Of course it does mean some of us will have to own up to using WHF 5 star kit ;)
Best wishes,
Greg
Quoting from another Stanley: 'I certainly will:).'
A massive thanks to all you guys, both fanboys and naysayers, who have spurned me on to keep refining the original unit so that I could capture a wider user base. I have been reluctant to develop a wider range of products with the same 'more bangs for your bucks' principle. Without any sort of street cred it is a hard job shifting boxes.
No worries, Stan. It's always nice to see the 'little guy' being successful. Long may it continue!
You know you've got a 'safe house' here on AOS anytime to promote your products :)
Marco.
Great stuff Stan, well done! I must say that your DAC has totally kicked my arse for turning my back on CD. ;) Next step is to get my Sky box & laptop hooked up which really shouldn't be an option at this price! 5 stars well deserved in my opinion.
He means it's that good he doesn't want to give up CD :)
Marco.
Marco,
I assumed as much, but wanted some expansion on the subject.
LOL. I see. It came across as if you didn't understand at all what he meant.
Marco.
The power of communicating on the Internet, eh? :scratch:
:eyebrows:
Marco.
There you go again assuming we communicating :doh: .....:lolsign:, seriously when you see the flame wars about '60s teatrolleys or kettle leads, you can see that it's a two edged sword. But, I would probably still be listening to a rubber band wobble deck if The internet didn't exist ;)
Deleted - but folks should know what AOS members get up to elsewhere when it's nasty and skullduggerous, I think.
Jerry, golden rule, mate - don't being diputes from other forums over here. Keith is also a member of AOS and I don't want any 'afters'. Please edit your post accordingly. Ta muchly :)
Marco.
Jerry I seem to recollect you were most indignant when Goldmund were discovered to be rebadging Pioneers, I simply wanted to know whether all the TEC 7510 dacs had the same innards, sorry if that is not being 'nice'.
Ahem!
Guys, I really don't want this discussion going off-topic and turning into a squabble. If I see any further evidence of this the posts will simply be deleted and the thread locked until things are back to normal.
Marco.
No they don't.
I find myself in the position where I keep having to answer the same questions over and over again.
The fact of the matter is that I am a product designer, and have been so for nearly two decades. But until recently when i set up my own business I have been designing stuff for other people under their brand name. My forte is low cost solutions, not high end stuff. When I started off by myself two years ago I had no capital to start with. So I made a deal with TEC, who I have been doing design work for since 1996, under which they can sell my designs according to their own specs in return for them manufacturing my own products. It is a win-win situation.
You can understand why I get a bit peed off when people refer to TEC as if I am selling his product under my name. He does more than 100 products, so if I was just re-badging I could easily sell more than just a DAC. I sell TEC products under the TEC brand name, so why would I want to go through the added expense and pick on just one product to stick my name on, when I could sell the TEC version cheaper and shift larger quantities?
Some people just refuse to give me credit for my work, even though I have been on the scene far longer than you think. Do I have to show you my prototypes on veroboard, with the bill of material invoices from the likes of Maplin, or drawings in various stages and amendments, before the sceptics shut up? No wonder British engineering is going down the pan. We are not considered smart enough to be able to come up with original ideas and have them made. It's only the Americans, Germans, and Far Easteners that are accepted as having any brains to come up with great ideas.
Bit late again getting on the forum
Anyway congrats on the review Stan! theres only a handful of UK designed products left now so respect to you mate;)
Leo
Post Deleted (without prompting ;)) ....
I do think it's a bit off though when one dealer stabs another in the back ..... :( ...... there should be forum rules about that, too. Actually, I think it's called Trolling.
Sensimilia - Stan - you should be very pleased, and proud, to have achieved this recognition for the hard work and time you will have invested in this venture. Not only is it something to have created a well regarded piece of kit, but to have got it out of prototype and into production is no mean feat. Especially with the market dominated by the big names! Good luck and ignore the naysayers!
John, mate, I really don't think that's the case.
Guys,
Keith has his customers and Stan has his. They're both entitled to earn a living however they see fit. Keith was only seeking information about the origins of Stan's DAC, which he now has. There was no malice, as far as I can see, intended towards Stan or his products.
Let's keep this thread positive - it's about Stan winning an award, nothing else. Talk about his DAC, by all means, but I won't let it degenerate into a petty squabble about who's selling what to their customers.
<Final warning>
Marco.
Yes no malice intended, Stan doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to crow about somebody else's design, there are however an increasing number of products that are simply re-badged look at the Levinson/ Red Rose products, Goldmund /Pioneer etc.
Stan's dac does the job, and diminishing returns kicks in pretty hard, as demonstrated when we compared a £600 ACK with a £33k DCS Scarlatti.
John,
Yep mate - no worries. I totally understand. Old wounds take a while to heal.
But like I said once before elsewhere: this isn't "other places". This is The Art of Sound. I would not allow Stan, or anyone else for that matter, to take un-called for abuse on any subject so it's time for people to lower their defence shields.
Eliminating 'bun fights' and providing a friendly and constructive atmosphere in which to discuss hi-fi and music is a core part of our ethos, and it always will be :)
Marco.
Ees cool, amigo :smoking:
Marco.
That's true, but it's been the case for a long time, and many manufacturers have to have a starting point. For example; Russ Andrews, Townshend and Esoteric - these manufacturers whole basis is re-engineering other manufacturers' equipment (ok, so TEAC and Esoteric are the same company, but you know what I mean). Not necessarily a bad thing in my opinion, and does justice to the 'lower' echelons of hi-fi as quality products worthy of the basis of high end products.
:)
Anyone knows where the Cambridge Audio factory is?
The Beresford is outperforming my Technics SL1210 / Denon DL103 in my system. I'm pretty shocked to say the least. Using a Marantz CD65DX (CDM 4/11 transport) and Stan's coax cable.
Incredible liquid, analogue sound without any digital haze or artefacts. I can listen through entire days, and not get fatigued. This was not easy with my previous experiences of CD (have owned modded Rotel 965BX & few other players). What surprises me how well-defined individual musicians and instruments are in the stereo image. My speakers have completely disappeared!
I don't really like to write reviews these days, but just wanted to give a big thumbs up.
There was a noticable burn-in period with the Beresford, and the changes after a couple of weeks are audible. Things open up and get smoother. Someone on another forum had the chance to compare out of the box and run-in DACs & noticed the same.
It isn't going to stop me playing my John Martyn vinyls, but it has given me a lot more faith in the CD format & now my phono stage needs to be upgraded! I do think that CD is a better format for Stax 'phones though. You can really hear the stylus in the groove with their gear if you know what I mean!
The latest version is the MK6/3, which was released in October 2007.
The price is £120.
There have not been that many versions to my knowledge, for me it was a Mk3 first, then 6, the 6.3 arrived soon after with the "virtual DC" after power supply trials with bigger PSU`s / battery etc.
These changes came about after Stan sought the opinions of forum members here and there, its just been "fine tuned" from the Mk3 onwards as far as i know.
It really does make big improvements when used with PC`c, Sky boxes etc, and my pioneer stable platter is more or less redundant, i have gone over to H/D, something i once thought i would never do.
I dont think there is much difference between my vinyl and digital sources at last, i`m happy with both now.:)
Just picked up The Eagles - 1971 to 1975 on vinyl from a charity shop. Technics back up to scratch. :P
Stan told me a while back MF wanted one of his DAC`s, i guess this is why.
http://www.musicalfidelity.com/produ...ries/vdac.html
A whole new series, i guess they wanted to compare it to the Beresford, but i heard a review of it, stans and the new dacmagic put the MF last of the 3 in performance.
The DacMagic was rated higher than my TC-7510. But I sent What HIFI a brand new DAC that would have required burn in first before it would have performed as well as it can. Maybe I should have sent them one of my test units that already had a burn in:doh:. I wonder how well the DacMagic would have faired against mine then:steam:.
I'll likely get a DACMagic in for a listen next month Stan.